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SternHebonics (fwd)Pine.GSO.3.93.970108100953.25797A-100000@felixJeffersontown Elementary32D345CC.B91@iglou.com32D34703.79D9@iglou.comMd Weather, Wednesday January 8, 19971.5.4.16.19970108144125.234f9a96@pop.erols.comWeather Report Jan 8/97970108185935_71672.3522_IHC14-1@CompuServe.COMnetsaaver@amrcorp.comaa-netsaaver@amrcorp.comAmerican Airlines Net SAAver Fares199701081346.HAA24578@cosmo.amrcorp.comHawaii.1/8/97v0153050063bc951b704f@[165.248.143.148]Netscape Tip of the Day [View Graphic Before Page is Fully Loaded]32D3BEE4.10DA@idgnewsletters.comWX-TALK Digest - 7 Jan 1997 to 8 Jan 1997199701090602.AAA52466@postoffice.cso.uiuc.eductyteach1.5.4.32.19970109154558.0067ac84@jhunix.hcf.jhu.eduroxsonw@iamerica.netMike MoldoverYou might be the last to knowNetscape Tip of the Day [Inline Graphics]32D5150B.4F07@idgnewsletters.comRensberger, Boyce (Newsroom)nor'easters32D581E6@smtpgate.washpost.comLinear Algebra or Stat.1.5.4.32.19970109220302.0067f574@jhunix.hcf.jhu.eduDear IRS...970109152258_1258244250@emout08.mail.aol.comUpdate....04B1832D5663203E*/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=GOV+NOAA/o=CCNWS/s=Kenitzer/g=Stephanie/@MHS0577232D5724A00E*/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=GOV+NOAA/o=CCNWS/s=Eustis/g=Allan/@MHSHawaii wea. 1/9/97v0153050063bd76d21518@[165.248.143.148]weather data from LA; Thursday 1/9/9732D59BEB.1533@erols.comWX-TALK Digest - 8 Jan 1997 to 9 Jan 1997199701100604.AAA262748@postoffice.cso.uiuc.eduFirst visit199701100639.WAA01423@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.comNewsPage Direct for Friday, January 10, 1997 (20 stories)199701101002.FAA08225@axil2.individual.com2.2.32.19970110152434.0068b06c@micf.nist.govLA weatherv01530500aefbe365c4bf@[206.81.58.22]Sally Bellsawvines.qVc7+5LdpmA@BSSD1.BSSD.K12.MO.USWeather Obs Nov 10/97970110192531_71672.3522_IHC75-1@CompuServe.COMThe "Other" Rules...970110140812_1622938217@emout01.mail.aol.comSher Renkenmike mogilQ's970110.133844@ipsd.orgMd Weather, Friday January 10, 19971.5.4.16.19970110173848.2f3712c0@pop.erols.com"H. 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BaytoshAWS system19970114.093319.4407.0.sbaytosh@juno.com32DA63E4.4324@erols.comMore on Math1.5.4.32.19970114150023.0066478c@jhunix.hcf.jhu.eduGreetings...Sky Week, other stuff32DB9196.B72@mail.idt.net32DA626F.1838@erols.comweather data (Louisiana)v01530501af000abfc0ed@[206.81.58.15]Jeff FrattaliLooking for ideas51272.frattali@jhunix.hcf.jhu.eduRalph E. 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A Cloud and Sky Watcher Window
Objective: to become aware of the different colors of the sky and clouds
Materials: poster board, poster paint (white, blue and black), paper plates, paint brushes, paint chips, scissors, glue sticks
Background: Children love to build and use cloud and sky watcher windows. It is a great way for each child to view their special piece of the sky above! It also fosters a stronger sense of observing the natural world around them.
Procedure: Prepare sky and cloud watchers using 8 1/2" x 11" poster board. Fold poster board in half; cut out a rectangle along the folded edge, leaving about a 2" frame.
How many animals can you find in these clouds?----------------------->
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designed by Tracie Talluto
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USING POSTER PAINT...Have children paint half their watcher in blues and the other half in grays. Alternatively, paint one side of the watcher in blues and the other side in grays. Be sure to leave one area unpainted to represent white. For each child, place 6 to 12 teaspoon-size blobs of white poster paint around the outside of a paper plate, and a larger blob of blue paint in the center. They should then add one drop of blue paint to the first blob and gently mix. Next they should paint a large band (about 1" to 2") from the outer edge to the inner edge of the watcher. They should then add two drops of blue paint to the second blob, and paint another band next to the first. Continue painting successively darker shades until all white blobs are used up. Repeat the activity using black paint.
Allow to dry and number or letter the colors in order so that the children can easily identify the colors they see.
USING PAINT CHIPS...Make a collection of blue and gray paint chip strips from your local paint store; be sure to include at least one or two whites. Give each child (or group of children) several strips. Have them cut the colors apart, leaving the color names on the chips for easier color identification (in the example below, we showed letters). Using a glue stick, they should glue at least a dozen chips onto their window frame. They can paste colors on just one side, or they can paste blues on one side and grays and whites on the other.
Have children predict the color(s) they expect to see most frequently. Post their predictions.
Go outside and have children hold their watcher windows up to the sky in the direction away from the sun. Have them match (as best they can) the actual sky or cloud colors with those on their watchers. Tell the children that it is okay to find more than one color in the sky or in the clouds!
Make a master sky watcher window for your class. As a class activity, assign a daily weather observer (or team) to record observed cloud and sky colors on a daily weather calendar. Children will often see more than one color during their observations. The data can later be transferred to a separate data record for easier counting / charting at the end of the month. How did the observed sky and cloud colors compare to their predictions?
SOME OTHER PONDERABLES...
Children can also compare weather to sky and cloud colors. For example, under what weather conditions is the sky the brightest blue? the darkest gray?
Does everyone see the same colors in the sky? Why or why not? What might be causing the different colors (e.g., pollution or different amounts of sunlight)?
Remember that each child looks at a different part of the sky and the ability to distinguish colors is different for each person. Each child really sees the sky and clouds as no one else can!
SKY and CLOUD WATCHER

adapted fromAnytime Weather Everywhere,
H. Michael Mogil and Barbara G. Levine,
HOW THE WEATHERWORKS Press, 1996
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Topics of the day:
1. looking for a partner
2. Watch box ambivalence
3. WATCH BOX HORRORS (2)
4. KFWA and KISN
5. ASOS (blah, blah) etc.
6. WATCH BOX HORRORS II (3)
7. Annual Tropical Cyclone Report
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:52:28 -0500
From: Ed Lozano
Subject: looking for a partner
Hey gang.....
I know we're sometime away from the real chasing season, but I'm looking
for people in the Denver area that may be looking for a partner or just a
group to hangout with....
Ed Lozano
newstoed@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 01:27:54 CST
From: Weatherman <954blake@ALPHA.NLU.EDU>
Subject: Watch box ambivalence
I know from tons of personal experience that watch boxes are taken with
a grain of salt by most people living in SE or NE Louisiana...the infamous
attitude of "It will never happen here" seems to reign...parents, friends,
teachers....if I tell them we are under a Tornado or Severe T-storm watch...
they couldn't care less normally...if it doesn't affect them personally...
ie the whole box doesn't get severe weather...
It is pretty poor attitude..especially when preparing for a big storm...
incidentally, I read something that said the two people that were killed
in the Simsboro Tornado in LA were killed while working on their radio
..car radio...in a t-storms when a tree came down on them....if that isn't
public unawareness....I don't know what is...
Eric Blake
Still waiting for the Monroe, LA tornado.... :)
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 04:54:02 -0500
From: Kevin Heyboer
Subject: Re: WATCH BOX HORRORS
Matthew, for those of you who live and work in "Tornado Alley," I would
tend to agree with all of your concerns, however; what about those of us
whose weather does not follow the rules established for the rest of the
United States.
Here in Florida, our weather, particularly during the Summer months,
follows some pretty unique patterns as compared to the rest of the U.S.,
ie: Thunderstorms move from the East to the West, lowest afternoon
relative humidity at or above 50%, and moisture surge from both sides
along the seabreeze...etc....
These factors can combine to make for some pretty severe, but short
lived, thunderstorms that don't match the criteria used by SELS to
forecast a watch. I have seen many a Severe Thunderstorm Outlook issued
by TBW office that were quite accurate in forecasting severe
thunderstorms when no watch was ever issued.
The combined factors that come into play in the plains states of strong
southwesterly jet, strong southeasterly fetch, and a dry line simply do
not apply in a state surrounded by warm water...the last time such an
event played out was the superstorm of '93...when we actually got ice
pellets after the severe storms rolled by with the upper level
conditions so cold that the moisture simply couldn't stay there.
For this reason, it does make sense to give the local WSFO's at least
more input into the forecasting of severe weather.
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Kevin Heyboer E-Mail: kheyboer@co.pinellas.fl.us
Amateur Radio Call: KD4UYR Packet Mail:KD4UYR@W4DPH.#TPA.FL.US
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 08:08:23 -0500
From: Robert P Dale
Subject: Re: KFWA and KISN
Fort Wayne is getting a 88D next year and will be an operational WFO in
1998...
Rob
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Northwest Ohio Weather Info -- http://norden1.com/~rdale/weather.html
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 18:33:19 GMT
From: Joseph Bartlo
Subject: Re: ASOS (blah, blah) etc.
Amy Zebulske wrote in article
...
> Rather than talking to forecasters, who might not have a thorough knowledge
> of the FMH as they don't use it everyday, call your local OBSERVATION station
> and ask an observer instead. (For those of you that are forecasters, that
> WASN'T meant to imply that you don't know and can't answer intelligently.
> But observers use the FMH, or in my case, AFMAN 15-111, every day and have
> a much better working knowledge of it. I am NOT attempting to flame any-
> body here so PLEASE don't take it that way.)
{...}
A+ :)
Joseph
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 19:50:23 GMT
From: Bill Gross
Subject: Re: WATCH BOX HORRORS
Watches by counties have pluses and minuses for the emergency
management community. Refining the watch process can only improve
things for EMCs. A good number of Emergency Mangement Offices are
staffed M-F 8AM to 5 PM. The Dallas Office will recall staff on
nights and weekends when severe weather boxes are issued that include
Dallas. When Dallas is at one end or the other of one of these boxes
the chances of stuff developing is discounted but the Office still
reopens. The staff at times will spend six or so hours baby sitting a
non-event.
By refining the watch process, it will decrease the times that folks
go into the office and sit until 2 AM watching nothing develop. It is
not that big a deal in the overall scheme of things, but when a office
is staffed by just a handfull of folks, keeping dry runs to a minimum
means a lot.
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 13:42:11 -0800
From: Matthew Biddle
Subject: Re: WATCH BOX HORRORS II
Dan McCarthy was kind enough to respond regarding watch boxes and
decentralization
with some good points and some further inquiries which I would like to
address. First I'd like to make it clear that I think SPC does a great
job and my concerns are in insuring their ability to continue to do so.
Obviously I do not know the whole story behind the MAR initiatives, nor
all of the challenges to SPC and WSOs. I speak with the bias of an
ex-Emergency Manager and as a Geographer specializing in Hazards. I am
not a Meteorologist.
Dwmccarthy@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> mbiddle@rosby.metr.ou.edu responded with some really good points. I hope to
> address them in this bandwidth.....
>
> > Of all the MAR plans for the NWS, this has to be the craziest! I am yet to
> see any > documentation as to WHY this idea is better for anyone? With the
> current method > I can verbally pass on a watchbox in one sentence. How will
> it go in the future?
> > Does the NWS think every aspect of public dissemination and emergency
> > management has gone digital?
>
> I don't totally understand the outrage here. Doing watches-by-county vs. the
> parallelogram the issue? Or is watch decentralization the issue?
> Watch-by-county allows us to configure the watches using 4, 5, or even six
> sides to define the watch area BETTER than with the parallelogram. It
> eliminates what we call "boxology" problems when it's time to issue another
> watch next to one that is in effect...or reorient a reissuance. One in the
> media or emergency management will still be able to describe the area that is
> covered geographically...they won't necessarily have to display it
> graphically...or even list every single county in the watch.
The "outrage" is in the pervasiveness of NWS to ignore the myraid of
cultures, resources, and needs of the WHOLE make-up of users. That they
surveyed a number of well-educated, high-profile and predominantly
well-funded emergency managers and WSO administrators about user needs
does not equate to what really goes on (hence the "digital" comment).
Again, the focus seems to be on information dissemination only and not
what users do with the info IF they can get it. What if certain users
WANT to know
the exact box or to see it? What if users WANT to know all the counties?
What about travelers? There is evidence that users do best when they
choose what they want out of a menu of possibilities. People use the
SAME info DIFFERENTLY.
I understand the forecasting basis for trying to better the "box." Has
NWS considered how this info will be conveyed? Is it solely by counties?
If not, will the text describing the watch area be appreciably longer? I
picture overlapping hexagons with regular re-issuances? How will this be
coordinated? Has the obsession with political boundaries been surpassed
by one of geometry? You loose the benefits of a smaller watch area if it
has to be conveyed by listing the counties, some of which are not
totally "in" and this becomes burdensome. I know this still happens now,
but to a lesser extent than I suspect will occur in the future.
What does it do to the workload of the WSO's? If SPC still does the work
on guidances, why the logic for not following them directly. Wouldn't
this actually save time resources? WSO control makes sense for warnings,
but I fail to understand why it does for watches.
> > Another issue of note: I have serious doubts about coordination and the
> erosion of >centralization in the Watch process. ...(deletia)...documentation
> has indicated that >the NWS did not performup to par for a severe weather
> disaster - EVERYone that >comes to mind involved communication/coordination
> problems because of multiple >jurisdictions and/or levels of responsibility
> within NWS. The ONLY major problem I >ever identified within the WATCH
> program was in a high rate of public ambivilance. >Perfomance-wise and to
> those who use it, it has worked well. Why mess with it?
>
> Again which issue are we talking about Watch-by-County, or decentralization?
BOTH
> We talk to every WSFO involed in a watch BEFORE issuing the watch. There's
> no surprises. That's WSFO (STL, TOP, OKC) vs. WFO (ICT, EAX, GLD).
> Coordination on our end is very precise and is followed to the letter as
> documented in the manuals. Beyond us, I don't know. Where is this
> documentation you refer to? Is it widely published, or your own observation
> and in your own journal?
The coordination problems I foresee are not so much SPC to WSO, but
rather WSO to WSO or WSFO. There is a lot of documentation....The
easiest to access are the Disaster Survey Reports. The two best examples
are the ones for "Plainfield/Crest Hill" and "Palm Sunday 1994." In the
Plainfield event, it was shown that there were problems in coordination
between WSFO's which effected warning performance. Similar problems were
encountered on Palm Sunday. Granted, these are some of the problems MAR
is meant to address, but there is no indication to me that the plans
address the real problems of coordination and information content.
Coordination is proposed to improve using the NAWAS
> network within the NWS. We will be coordinating with all involved offices AT
> THE SAME TIME rather than on-at-a-time. So, everyone will be on the same
> page at the same time.
That sounds like a sound policy addressing the above.
The Watch-by-County will enable us to forecast more
> precisely than before. We at SPC are all looking forward to it.
I'm all for more precise forecasting, but if the added precision cannot
be delivered to the user it will not matter. So what if you can be more
specific geographically if there is no way to deliver the message in
useable fashion. I know of no studies NWS has done regarding spacial
information thresholds, yet they are convinced about their initiatives.
That weather info does not conform to political boundaries has always
been a problem, but this does not mean we should proceed blindly into
uncharted waters. I don't think enough work has been done to define how
users perceive the spatial environment with regard to watch/warning
info. NWS could end up moderizing systems, but not thinking. Where will
this lead?
As for > public ambivilance....I think the watch is still very much paid
attention to.
> Do you have documentation from a psycology expert on this? I had neighbors
> in Kansas City who would just go downstairs when a watch was issued.....why
> wait for the warning?
There are many like your friends in Kansas City, but I would say it's a
given than many more people pay attention to watches than to warnings.
This is a failure of public relations and education that does not rest
upon NWS only. I do in fact have some of the only recent watch behavior
survey data collected that I am aware of (there is room for much more).
In surveys of college students (belief assessments - 100+ polled each
state) in three states (OK,IL, and AL) it was found that:
Where 1="strongly agree" and 7="strongly disagree"
"Most people I know understand the difference between a watch and a
warning"
Mean Response - AL=5.19 - IL=5.04 - OK=4.88
I will spare the statistical significance info, but the above indicates
near-neutral responses, which in turn indicates that many may not know
the difference.
In other questions:
- <50% of AL and IL respondents indicated they "did nothing different"
(including to monitor media info) when a Tornado Watch is issued.
- 10% of Oklahomans, 13% Alabamans, and 28% of Illinoisians did NOT know
the difference between a watch and a warning.
- The mean response to the statement - "Sometimes I get confused as to
whether (WX INFO) affects/may affect me (my location)" - was slight
disagreement, indicating significant truth for some that there is
confusion.
I understand the limitations of such survey work, but it's the best I
have and I would lobby for much more work in this area.
I also know many Radio and TV stations which do pass on warnings, but
ignore watches.
> Matthew....I invite you to visit us at SPC. You know where we are...NSSL
> building. I personally would be glad to show you around, if not on
> midnights. (You don't want to be social with me then).
Other Questions:
-Where will the Phase I Field Testing (for watch decentralization)
occur?
-NWS documents state the plan underwent review from customers. Do you
know how I could get access to the review and comments?
-Has NWS considered the effects on non-NWS software for graphic
displays?
My main point is that despite early MAR plans to utilize
psychological,geographical, and sociological experts in planning, I can
count such people I know of involved on one hand. I am not saying that
different Watch procedures nor decentralization won't work, but rather
that there appears to be widely differing opinions within NWS, and that
I fear they have not fully considered or studied the impact of NWS
products on users.
> Thanks for the resonse!
>
> Dan McCarthy
> Mesometeorologist
I would love to do that and appreciate your insight!
Matthew Biddle
University of Oklahoma
Department of Geography
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 03:21:48 GMT
From: Steven young
Subject: Annual Tropical Cyclone Report
Over the years, I have ordered this publication from the US
Government, and I usually get copies made from microfiche which
are very poor. Can anyone advise me how to order/purchase or
otherwise receive orginal hard copy publication of this document.
Thanks
Steve
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Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 23:31:45 -0500
From: Gary Gray and Gregory Maley
Subject: Northeast U.S. Winter Storms...
Not going to wast bandwidth for my own homepage advertising, so right to
the point (my original post failed on one of the newsgroups)...
I've got a new page for Northeast U.S. Winter Storms with three of my
own products:
1) 24, 48, 72hr forecast panels
2) 48hr cumulative snowfall forecast
3) Model discussion
I plan on adding my own automated forecasting (MOS-style) data derived
from the ETA/NGM/AVN/MRF sometime later this winter.
As well, I have links to over 15 different models and most of the FOUS
and MOS data (I'll add the rest of the links ASAP).
The site is: http://www2.smart.net/~gdmgeg
follow the NE Winter Storm link.
Thanks for your time and sorry for the excessive "ads"!!
-Gary
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 06:29:45 GMT
From: Michael Wick
Subject: Weather Stations
Looking to conduct a mini-poll. I will be in the market next spring to
purchase a new weather station. What kind does everybody have?
Include both pros and cons.
Thanks in advance to all who will respond. Please respond via this
list, or private E-mail at shelby13@mail.bright.net.
Mike Wick
Shelby Co (OH) ARES
Sidney, OH
KC8EIT
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 09:50:03 -0700
From: "Ricketts,Steve [Edm]"
Subject: FW: Effect of radars on weather warnings
>Does anyone know of any cold, hard numbers that demonstrate the effect of the
>NEXRAD network (or whatever) on your severe warnings over the past year or
>two? That is, it has improved your lead time by "x" minutes, improved the POD
>and reduced the FAR.
>
>The reason I ask is because we are in the midst of developing a proposal to
>upgrade our national weather radar network, and I frequently get asked this
>type of question, both by senior managers and by the media. Basically, the
>questions go something like "So now that you've spent a million dollars
>installing a fancy Doppler radar, how has it improved your forecasts?" and
>"Why should we spend more money on installing other systems?"
>
>Fair questions, but not easy to answer. We meteorologists may think the
>reasons are clear, but how do we articulate them?
>
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>| Manager, Northern Alberta Environmental Services Centre
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